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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Olivia. I appreciate you sharing that with us. The quackery bit isn't something I'd thought of, but in hindsight it makes sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Olivia. I appreciate you sharing that with us. The quackery bit isn&#8217;t something I&#8217;d thought of, but in hindsight it makes sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Olivia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olivia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an 11 year old son with Asperger's Syndrome, and I am very familiar with this whole debate. I can't agree with you more on this, not getting vaccinations for your kids is just stupid. OMG, my son has AS, the horror! . I would much, much rather risk my child having developmental disorders and trouble communicating than getting polio, especially when there is so extremely little evidence or anything to even suggest to a rational person that this theory has any truth to it. Also, my son showed signs of autistic behavior from birth, before he ever had the first vaccination. And I love my son, everything about him, because he is the sweetest, quirkiest, kindest person I know, and he is extremely intelligent, just not the same as everyone else.

But in addition to this whole sorry thing leading to parents not getting their kids vaccinated, it feeds into the scam artists and quacks that are feeding on the panic most parents feel when they first learn their child has an autistic spectrum disorder, and unfortuinately too many parents never quite recover from enough to get some perspective. The 'cure' people feed on that, promising to 'cure' these children of being who they are with treatments that are unpleasant at the very best, and lethal at the worst, and none of them will actually cure autism. One five year old boy died from the affects of chelation treatments that were supposed to remove the mercury from his system and 'cure' him of autism because of this panic over vaccinations, and I have had this same 'cure' pushed at me so many times I'm getting ready to bite the next person's head off. 

So, yeah, I am all for raising awareness of the quackery and stupidity behind this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an 11 year old son with Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome, and I am very familiar with this whole debate. I can&#8217;t agree with you more on this, not getting vaccinations for your kids is just stupid. OMG, my son has AS, the horror! . I would much, much rather risk my child having developmental disorders and trouble communicating than getting polio, especially when there is so extremely little evidence or anything to even suggest to a rational person that this theory has any truth to it. Also, my son showed signs of autistic behavior from birth, before he ever had the first vaccination. And I love my son, everything about him, because he is the sweetest, quirkiest, kindest person I know, and he is extremely intelligent, just not the same as everyone else.</p>
<p>But in addition to this whole sorry thing leading to parents not getting their kids vaccinated, it feeds into the scam artists and quacks that are feeding on the panic most parents feel when they first learn their child has an autistic spectrum disorder, and unfortuinately too many parents never quite recover from enough to get some perspective. The &#8216;cure&#8217; people feed on that, promising to &#8216;cure&#8217; these children of being who they are with treatments that are unpleasant at the very best, and lethal at the worst, and none of them will actually cure autism. One five year old boy died from the affects of chelation treatments that were supposed to remove the mercury from his system and &#8216;cure&#8217; him of autism because of this panic over vaccinations, and I have had this same &#8216;cure&#8217; pushed at me so many times I&#8217;m getting ready to bite the next person&#8217;s head off. </p>
<p>So, yeah, I am all for raising awareness of the quackery and stupidity behind this.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 19:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for explaining the Japan Study.  &lt;a href="http://www.autismtoday.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;Autism Today&lt;/a&gt; had not published anything about this study, but we are following up on it now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for explaining the Japan Study.  <a href="http://www.autismtoday.com" rel="nofollow">Autism Today</a> had not published anything about this study, but we are following up on it now.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 19:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stephen,

I am the owner of Autism Today. a large web portal dedicated to the latest news about autism.

Your article about Autism and Vaccines is very fair and well researched.

I especially was glad to see you inclusion about the most recent Canadian population study.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stephen,</p>
<p>I am the owner of Autism Today. a large web portal dedicated to the latest news about autism.</p>
<p>Your article about Autism and Vaccines is very fair and well researched.</p>
<p>I especially was glad to see you inclusion about the most recent Canadian population study.</p>
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		<title>By: missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Thimerosal is still used in some flu vaccines for young children.  If anyone has a concern about that, they should ask their doctor whether their particular clinic administers flu vaccines that contain it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Thimerosal is still used in some flu vaccines for young children.  If anyone has a concern about that, they should ask their doctor whether their particular clinic administers flu vaccines that contain it.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 20:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As I understood the article she sent me to read on the subject (lost now, alas), the vaccine itself wasn’t the problem, but rather something that was done to it to make it keep longer&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That's undoubtedly thimerosal. Thimerosal's derived from mercury, and it was used to preserve vaccines for mass production and longer storage. Thimerosal worked really well for that purpose, but there was a lot of question about whether or not it caused autism. Studies like the one I first referenced have shown that there is likely no link between thimerosal and autism. It's becoming a moot point, though, as thimerosal's been phased out of kid's vaccines since 2000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As I understood the article she sent me to read on the subject (lost now, alas), the vaccine itself wasn’t the problem, but rather something that was done to it to make it keep longer</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s undoubtedly thimerosal. Thimerosal&#8217;s derived from mercury, and it was used to preserve vaccines for mass production and longer storage. Thimerosal worked really well for that purpose, but there was a lot of question about whether or not it caused autism. Studies like the one I first referenced have shown that there is likely no link between thimerosal and autism. It&#8217;s becoming a moot point, though, as thimerosal&#8217;s been phased out of kid&#8217;s vaccines since 2000.</p>
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		<title>By: Joyous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joyous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 20:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I understood the article she sent me to read on the subject (lost now, alas), the vaccine itself wasn't the problem, but rather something that was done to it to make it keep longer, so it could mass produced and shipped in large batches.  I can't remember the details now, so that's undocumented recollection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I understood the article she sent me to read on the subject (lost now, alas), the vaccine itself wasn&#8217;t the problem, but rather something that was done to it to make it keep longer, so it could mass produced and shipped in large batches.  I can&#8217;t remember the details now, so that&#8217;s undocumented recollection.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 20:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a lot like the "seat belt decision": there is some non-zero chance  that I'll have a car wreck in which wearing a seat belt actually causes me more injury than not wearing one (or maybe kills me where I would have survived if I hadn't worn it). I still always wear my seat belt.

Life is risk. Nothing is totally safe, and the best thing you can do is play the numbers. In some things (like seat belts and vaccinations) given no further information that I'm unique, the numbers seem to me overwhelmingly in favor of using the protection that's offered. 

Interestingly, Joyce's friend has past experience that could be interpreted to indicate uniqueness-by-genetics in the case of vaccinations. The hard part is distinguishing true information from plain old bad luck, especially with such a small "sample".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a lot like the &#8220;seat belt decision&#8221;: there is some non-zero chance  that I&#8217;ll have a car wreck in which wearing a seat belt actually causes me more injury than not wearing one (or maybe kills me where I would have survived if I hadn&#8217;t worn it). I still always wear my seat belt.</p>
<p>Life is risk. Nothing is totally safe, and the best thing you can do is play the numbers. In some things (like seat belts and vaccinations) given no further information that I&#8217;m unique, the numbers seem to me overwhelmingly in favor of using the protection that&#8217;s offered. </p>
<p>Interestingly, Joyce&#8217;s friend has past experience that could be interpreted to indicate uniqueness-by-genetics in the case of vaccinations. The hard part is distinguishing true information from plain old bad luck, especially with such a small &#8220;sample&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Misty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Misty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 18:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me, all the good a vaccine gives the general population far outweighs the risk of not taking them. Lately I have had questions about different aspects of modern medicine but this is not one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, all the good a vaccine gives the general population far outweighs the risk of not taking them. Lately I have had questions about different aspects of modern medicine but this is not one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Joyous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joyous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 17:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a friend who is convinced her family have the genetic markers for bad reactions to vaccination.  She also has an autistic son.  Consequently, she is not having her two younger kids vaccinated.  I'm not sure what I think of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a friend who is convinced her family have the genetic markers for bad reactions to vaccination.  She also has an autistic son.  Consequently, she is not having her two younger kids vaccinated.  I&#8217;m not sure what I think of this.</p>
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