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	<title>Comments on: Consumer Reports Has Infant Car Seat Recommendations</title>
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		<title>By: David Hoffman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 04:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Jaunary of 2007, Consumer Report (CR) withdrawn its recent report on infant carseats.  The reason? CR claimed that 10 of 12 infant carseats are not safe, and actually recommended the recall of one particular carseat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Jaunary of 2007, Consumer Report (CR) withdrawn its recent report on infant carseats.  The reason? CR claimed that 10 of 12 infant carseats are not safe, and actually recommended the recall of one particular carseat.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.cnn.com/2007/AUTOS/01/18/car_seat/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
Consumer reports has recalled that study and will release a new report sometime.</description>
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Consumer reports has recalled that study and will release a new report sometime.</p>
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		<title>By: Limax</title>
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		<dc:creator>Limax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 18:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both my kids are in boosters these days using the seat belts in the car.  I&#039;m wondering what we would have done if we had seen that when our kids were smaller.  It&#039;s a very scary prospect.  I saw an ad recently that the &#039;magic&#039; height is 4&#039;9&quot; for no booster/car seat.  I&#039;m guessing my daughter will be there in another year or so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both my kids are in boosters these days using the seat belts in the car.  I&#8217;m wondering what we would have done if we had seen that when our kids were smaller.  It&#8217;s a very scary prospect.  I saw an ad recently that the &#8216;magic&#8217; height is 4&#8217;9&#8243; for no booster/car seat.  I&#8217;m guessing my daughter will be there in another year or so.</p>
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		<title>By: Geof F. Morris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geof F. Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 16:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Levitt is simply taking the traditional economist&#039;s view, which is if the extra expenditure doesn&#039;t provide value, it is a waste and could be re-directed.  I&#039;m not sure that this is well-articulated, though.

Also, yes ... I was disappointed that they made the claims about the special seat-belts without commissioning anything on them.  What they&#039;ve done is highlight a potential problem, but their &quot;solution&quot; is wholly untested.  Granted, I may be a bit biased here, but if you&#039;ve not tested your solution, you can&#039;t claim much of anything about it.

[I&#039;m also a bit miffed at the test engineer who didn&#039;t want to test anything.  What the hell?  Most test engineers I know live to break stuff and bust up people&#039;s hypotheses.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Levitt is simply taking the traditional economist&#8217;s view, which is if the extra expenditure doesn&#8217;t provide value, it is a waste and could be re-directed.  I&#8217;m not sure that this is well-articulated, though.</p>
<p>Also, yes &#8230; I was disappointed that they made the claims about the special seat-belts without commissioning anything on them.  What they&#8217;ve done is highlight a potential problem, but their &#8220;solution&#8221; is wholly untested.  Granted, I may be a bit biased here, but if you&#8217;ve not tested your solution, you can&#8217;t claim much of anything about it.</p>
<p>[I'm also a bit miffed at the test engineer who didn't want to test anything.  What the hell?  Most test engineers I know live to break stuff and bust up people's hypotheses.]</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 05:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had seen the first Freakonomics post, but not the second. Note that Levitt and Dubner don&#039;t suggest that you shouldn&#039;t use a car seat for kids under 2, which is the age range for the car seats discussed in the Consumer Reports study:

&lt;blockquote&gt;For children younger than roughly 24 months, seat belts plainly won&#039;t do. For them, a car seat represents the best practical way to ride securely, and it is certainly an improvement over the days of riding shotgun on mom&#039;s lap.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Also, as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=106718/pageNumber=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Edmunds pointed out&lt;/a&gt;, Levitt&#039;s and Dubner&#039;s data hasn&#039;t gone through peer review. I find their analysis interesting but not enough to draw a conclusion from. I am bemused that their latest response was entitled, &quot;We Are Not the Only Ones Who Think Child Car Seats Don’t Work Well&quot; whereas their earlier claims boiled down to &quot;specially modified seat belts (which do not currently exist) would work as well as car seats.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had seen the first Freakonomics post, but not the second. Note that Levitt and Dubner don&#8217;t suggest that you shouldn&#8217;t use a car seat for kids under 2, which is the age range for the car seats discussed in the Consumer Reports study:</p>
<blockquote><p>For children younger than roughly 24 months, seat belts plainly won&#8217;t do. For them, a car seat represents the best practical way to ride securely, and it is certainly an improvement over the days of riding shotgun on mom&#8217;s lap.</p></blockquote>
<p>Also, as <a href="http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=106718/pageNumber=1" rel="nofollow">Edmunds pointed out</a>, Levitt&#8217;s and Dubner&#8217;s data hasn&#8217;t gone through peer review. I find their analysis interesting but not enough to draw a conclusion from. I am bemused that their latest response was entitled, &#8220;We Are Not the Only Ones Who Think Child Car Seats Don’t Work Well&#8221; whereas their earlier claims boiled down to &#8220;specially modified seat belts (which do not currently exist) would work as well as car seats.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 04:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And their more recent post, responding to the consumer reports article: http://www.freakonomics.com/blog/2007/01/05/we-are-not-the-only-ones-who-think-child-car-seats-dont-work-well/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And their more recent post, responding to the consumer reports article: <a href="http://www.freakonomics.com/blog/2007/01/05/we-are-not-the-only-ones-who-think-child-car-seats-dont-work-well/" rel="nofollow">http://www.freakonomics.com/blog/2007/01/05/we-are-not-the-only-ones-who-think-child-car-seats-dont-work-well/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 04:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;d be interested in the take of the Freakonomics authors on it: http://www.freakonomics.com/times0710col.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d be interested in the take of the Freakonomics authors on it: <a href="http://www.freakonomics.com/times0710col.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.freakonomics.com/times0710col.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Creekmore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Creekmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 04:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the heads up.  Bookmarked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the heads up.  Bookmarked.</p>
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		<title>By: Geof F. Morris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geof F. Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 03:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to ask you if you&#039;d seen this, and if it was behind the paywall, well ... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to ask you if you&#8217;d seen this, and if it was behind the paywall, well &#8230; <img src='http://granades.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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