5 Comments

1. Mark J Musante
   on September 29, 2006 at 11:23 am | Permalink

   hear hear

2. Paul O'Brian
   on September 29, 2006 at 12:39 pm | Permalink

   Also: coming up with stupid excuses for torture like “the Geneva Convention is too vague” counts as torture.

3. stacy
   on September 29, 2006 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

   whipping out Orwell and crying ‘it’s 1984!’ is like pulling out the Hitler comparions in newsgroups. Nontheless. Jesus is it getting apt. I find it hard to understand the actions of people like Cheney without turning to Orwell’s philosophy: “Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power.”

4. Asai
   on September 29, 2006 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

   quoting from an online nytimes article:

   “The legislation broadens the definition of enemy combatants beyond the traditional definition used in wartime, to include noncitizens living legally in this country as well as those in foreign countries, and also anyone determined to be an enemy combatant under criteria defined by the president or secretary of defense.”

   this excerpt just frightens me to no end… sad sad day…

5. Geof F. Morris
   on September 30, 2006 at 2:36 am | Permalink

   I think that Bruce Schneier got it best yesterday, noting that “Judicial oversight is a security mechanism.”

   And Congress caved.