Comments on: Qualities of Experience and Logical Consistency http://granades.com/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&feed=Comments+on+Articles+%28RSS2%29&seed=http%3A%2F%2Fgranades.com%2F2006%2F12%2F06%2Fqualities-of-experience-and-logical-consistency%2F%23comment-&seed_title=Qualities+of+Experience+and+Logical+Consistency Like a blog, but explodier Sat, 11 Oct 2008 14:58:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Geof F. Morris http://granades.com/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&feed=Comments+on+Articles+%28RSS2%29&seed=http%3A%2F%2Fgranades.com%2F2006%2F12%2F06%2Fqualities-of-experience-and-logical-consistency%2F%23comment-6182&seed_title=Qualities+of+Experience+and+Logical+Consistency#comment-6182 Geof F. Morris Sat, 09 Dec 2006 19:02:05 +0000 http://granades.com/2006/12/06/qualities-of-experience-and-logical-consistency/#comment-6182 <blockquote>You elevate matters of opinion to statements of fact and use them as cudgels with which to smite the unbelievers.</blockquote> Ah yes. That's become a pet peeve of mine lately, and when it happens, I get ... very angry. [Which isn't to say that I don't sometimes do it, because I do.]

You elevate matters of opinion to statements of fact and use them as cudgels with which to smite the unbelievers.

Ah yes. That’s become a pet peeve of mine lately, and when it happens, I get … very angry. [Which isn't to say that I don't sometimes do it, because I do.]

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]]> By: liza http://granades.com/feeder/?FeederAction=clicked&feed=Comments+on+Articles+%28RSS2%29&seed=http%3A%2F%2Fgranades.com%2F2006%2F12%2F06%2Fqualities-of-experience-and-logical-consistency%2F%23comment-6125&seed_title=Qualities+of+Experience+and+Logical+Consistency#comment-6125 liza Thu, 07 Dec 2006 13:34:58 +0000 http://granades.com/2006/12/06/qualities-of-experience-and-logical-consistency/#comment-6125 I'm definitely in the emotion-over-plot camp, but that doesn't mean I don't like analyzing plot-level details when they work well. <i>Heroes</i> is especially good for that, because it's so tightly knitted, unlike <i>BSG</i>, which is a big sloppy mess. But I connect much more deeply with the messed-up and damaged <i>BSG</i> characters than with shiny-faced Claire and floppy-haired Peter (but mmm, floppy hair). Sometimes I do find myself veering off into endless complaininess, but it's rarely because the writers violated some law of thermodynamics. More often it's because I feel they made a mistake in storytelling -- they diminished my emotional connection to the show in some way. The best example I have is one I was just, in fact, complaining about to some friends: Spike's appearance on Angel totally ruined (for me) his "finale" on Buffy, by lessening his sacrifice. I can only imagine it was for the sake of engaging Spike's fans (and thus increase ratings), which is another way in which fandom often goes wrong: sometimes the best thing to do with a story is let it go. I’m definitely in the emotion-over-plot camp, but that doesn’t mean I don’t like analyzing plot-level details when they work well. Heroes is especially good for that, because it’s so tightly knitted, unlike BSG, which is a big sloppy mess. But I connect much more deeply with the messed-up and damaged BSG characters than with shiny-faced Claire and floppy-haired Peter (but mmm, floppy hair).

Sometimes I do find myself veering off into endless complaininess, but it’s rarely because the writers violated some law of thermodynamics. More often it’s because I feel they made a mistake in storytelling — they diminished my emotional connection to the show in some way. The best example I have is one I was just, in fact, complaining about to some friends: Spike’s appearance on Angel totally ruined (for me) his “finale” on Buffy, by lessening his sacrifice. I can only imagine it was for the sake of engaging Spike’s fans (and thus increase ratings), which is another way in which fandom often goes wrong: sometimes the best thing to do with a story is let it go.

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