Comments on: It’s Not the Name, It’s the Persona

By: Stephen

Stephen — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:30:03 +0000

I’d never heard that story. I’ll have to add it to my grab-bag of anecdotes about this topic.

By: ctate

ctate — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:39:34 +0000

One of Ursula Le Guin’s earliest stories, nominated for a Nebula, was published in Playboy under the name “U. K. LeGuin” because Playboy felt that a female attribution might make readers “nervous.” Years later Le Guin commented, “It’s not surprising that Playboy hadn’t had its consciousness raised back then, but it is surprising to me to realize how thoughtlessly I went along with them. It was the first (and is the only) time I met with anything I understood as sexual prejudice, prejudice against me as a woman writer, from any editor or publisher; and it seemed so silly, so grotesque, that I failed to see that it was also important.”

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By: Stephen

Stephen — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:46:44 +0000

Vika: Yeah. That’s why I think Jessica Wakeman is completely misguided in her critique.

Lucian: I don’t buy that. By her own admisison she wouldn’t have told people she was a woman if someone else wasn’t about to do it for her. And even if she was exploiting the community, she was also perpetuating its sexism and choosing as its target people who were outside that community (mommy bloggers, in the specific example cited).

By: Lucian Smith

Lucian Smith — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:31:07 +0000

I dunno; from one perspective, you could say she *exploited* the sexist community by pretending to be sexist herself and getting their money as a result. It’s that community that creates the need for those people–she decided to go after that money by creating the persona they wanted. And then, by coming out, she humiliated them besides.

By: vika

vika — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:19:58 +0000

As I commented elsewhere, I think Chartrand’s coming out will have a greater impact on the glass ceiling than her writing would have, had she written under a woman’s name from the start. She’d be perpetuating it if she hadn’t come out. As it stands, she conducted an experiment, got data, and in-your-face’d it to the internet, where we can’t hide from it.

By: Missy K

Missy K — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:56:28 +0000

I’ve encountered many women who are more sexist in their professional interactions than most men are. Like it or not, our society still gives us subtle messages that men are more valuable, competent and knowledgable than women. Women have bought into that as well. We’re harder on each other than we would be on a man.

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